Reading chapter fours overall content, talks about the different stages we go through, throughout life and different ones we encounter. The stages were set up in comparison with Freud and Erickson psychosocial stages. It gives reasoning for why people, or when people have issues in their life that causes them to seek therapy. It also talks about the relationship of a therapist and a client. The therapist goal is to bring change in the clients life that allows them to make better decisions/choices. Different ways of getting the client to talk or become comfortable enough to freely associate, and pay attention to signs of resistance when a client fails to open up about a particular situation or event. I like this chapter because it helps you understand how you have to get to a root of a problem starting fron the Pral stage to get to the Genital stage to look for issues. Also how therapists have to look for key clues to figure the client out. In my opinion, sort of like a detective!
In response to Alena, that statement you made "the therapist goal is to bring change in the client's life that allows them to make better decisions/choices" is right on. I completely agree! Our job as therapist is not to "fix" or "cure" the people because first off we don't have the ability to, but we should help guide them to better decisions/choices that 1) works for them and 2) will help get them through their issue(s). And ultimately if the client doesn't have a part in their help process then they will be right back to square one in a worst position then they already were.
Chapter four lays out the relationship between therapist and client and the different therapeutic approaches as well as the process and way in which we cope. Me personally I'm not very fond of Frued's approach because I feel that in a way he sort of leaves them out in the cold. However I do like how he taps into the unconscious mind because that part can never lie. We as people put on different personas based on what we want people to know and or see. But with the unconscious mind, and free association it doesn't allow for you to change or filter what we really feel. Chapter four also at one point also touches on the defense mechanisms such as repression, denial, reaction formation, projection, displacement, rationalization, etc. As a therapist I think that it is a very good thing for us to know how to guide the client past them, because if you're always guarded or on defense then you won't really be able to take in and open up to what is being said. Overall I think that this chapter is very good for building a trustful relationship between therapist and client.
In response to Niesha, I also didnt like some of Frueds approaches but some of them were helpful to me like muliticultural perspectives. I also agree on what you pointed out about being a good therapist it is good to know how to guide a person past thier issues such as being on the defense or being in denial ex.
In response to Niesha, i agree with the statement you made that "we as people put on different persona based on what we want people to know or see." I agree with this statement because people hide their real self and lives behind these personas without realizing that in some situation, hiding things will just worsen things instead of talking it out with someone. Just like the client might at first portray themselves to look normal or sound normal when they are talking to you, portraying different personnas. For example, they might switch the subject when they are talking to the therapist and start talking about the clothes they brought or the food they made, just to avoid any bad signs that a therapist might have about them. When in reality the therapist already know they have a problem and they are just looking to help them.
In response to Niesha,I like how you talked about the defense mechanisms and As a therapist very good thing for us to know how to guide the client past them, because if the client always guarded or on defense then you won't really be able to take in and open up to what is being said.up to what is being said.I think if you are too defense you won't really get the help you need
I thought it was interesting how the book talks about the three systems that makes up our personality and how those systems affects our behaviors. Then it goes on to tell us about the eleven other defenses that make up our behaviors. One of which was repression, where a child might go through abuse when they are young and have those painful events buried inside of them that later it starts to affect their behaviors. They might want to kill or hurt themselves or others. It can also cause the child to be very timid and to isolate themselves from the world. The book also made a statement that our personality are determined within the first six years of ours lives. I kind of disagree with that because our personalities can change as we grow up. When we are young, sometimes we do things out of unawareness and people might take that action as the type of person we are, when in fact the action was done out of unawareness and so it's not our personality.
In response to Kambaja I liked your summary and I thought you made a lot of valid points. When you said you disagreed with the fact that our personalities are determined within the first six years of ours lives I think you kind of contradicted yourself by saying that because in the beginning of your summary you state that One of the defenses was repression, where a child might go through abuse when they are young and have those painful events buried inside of them that later it starts to affect their behaviors. They might want to kill or hurt themselves or others. So what I'm trying to say is that I do think that the first six years of our lives make up our personality but I'm not saying your personality can never change through the course of the rest of your life it would just be very difficult to change it because the first six years was when your brain first developed any type of personality.
After reading chapter 4, I've learned a lot about the different types of personality we way. I believe that they do have a big effect in our lives. After reading "Client's Experience in Therapy" I do believe that the client has to prepare themselves for the long session and unwanted talks. I like the free association because I would feel like I would want my client to speak there mind even if its something way of topic and crazy, I think my client would feel a little bit better before. The six basic techniques are wonderful to me also, because all of them has is pro's and con's to them.
In reply to Shaniece, i agree with your response concerning how a client has to prepare themselves for unwanted talks. Unwanted talks can have both a negative and positive reactions to the client. It can take them in a zone of being comfortable as well as uncomfortable. But overall once those issues come out in the open, it will help to resolve what influences it have in their future.
In chapter four they touched on multiple subjects that were very informative. This chapter touched on Freud’s theories, the structure of personality, the therapeutic process, therapeutic techniques and procedures, contemporary trends, psychoanalytic therapy from a multicultural perspective, and Jung’s perspective on the development of personality. What I found most interesting in this chapter was Jung’s perspective and his theory of personality. I found this interesting because he uses a psychology approach that I have not heard of before which is analytical psychology. I would love to be able to use this approach in my area of practice whatever that may be. I want to use this type of phycology because it is an elaborate explanation of human nature that combines ideas from history, mythology, anthropology, and religion. I feel as if this approach would help me to relate with my clients a lot more than any other approach because it is a combination of many different things and we as people have many different problems. “Jung maintained that we are not merely shaped by past events, but that we are influenced by our future as well as our past. Part of the nature of humans is to be constantly developing, growing, and moving toward a balanced and complete level of development.”
In response to Molly. I think it is also very true that we are influenced by our future as well as our past. The past can bring negative effects to our future, and our future can bring negative effects of our past depending on what that may be. This is something that we need to overcome as individuals changing our behaviors and applying them to the very best of ourselves. Developing into people who are able to learn from mistakes and not be fearful of past/ future events.
After reading this chapter it was enlighting to know different theories that freud touched on, and how personality can effect our behavior. in the chapter it talked about people being defensive and how to build a trusting relationship with your clients.I belive that this is the most important thing to do as a therapist. Building a trustful relationship can help a therapist get to the core of most issues a person is having and help the client open up. I also liked reading freuds views on therapeutic techniques and procedures and multicultural perspectives. this helped me understand ways that some people can think and respond to things differently than I would. overall this chapter was good for me to read it helped me understand alot of things that I didnt understand before.
In response to danielle, i agree with your line of thought that a client can be defensive when you ask them a question, especially when they have trust issues. I think that sometimes when a client is being defensive, that's their way of trying to avoid the question that they were asked or that they are guilty of something that they don't want to tell you. And so the therapist should really be skilled and know how to respond when their client act defensively.
In response to danielle, I also believe that trust plays a big part in everything too. Honestly without trust the client may not open up to you as well as you would want them to. I also feel like the client may become defensive while talking about certain things because they may feel some type of way about the conversation and may not know how to answer certain questions correctly.
In response to Danielle, I do believe personality can eff our behavior.I think because your personality plays a role in almost everything that you do in life. Your personality, you can often predict how he or she will be likely to act in a particular situation.I do believe Building a trustful relationship can help a therapist with their client because the client would be more confident opening up.
During the reading of chapter 4 there were many of Freud theories I found to be very helpful, some intriguing and others very bizarre. Borderline personality disorder I found to be very interesting, to just think that a crisis, rejection or isolation during childhood could trigger such a thing described as a personality disorder. However I do think some of these disorders are a little strange, for instance narcissistic personality, would it be fair to say that in reality this is what one would consider self-worth, or maybe be to be a little arrogance or self absorbed, In my opinion I think that every action, emotion and function of the human nature is analyzed as a disorder.
In response to Shabrita when you said that you think that every action, emotion and function of the human nature is analyzed as a disorder I one hundred percent agree with you because my brother was diagnosed with ADHD when he was in 3rd grade when really he was drinking my moms ice coffees before he went to school because he wanted to feel grown up. So now he has a teacher that follows him around school and he has to take medication he doesn't need just because they over analyzed a hyper kid and just wrote him off with a disorder.
In response to shabrita i agree with you when you say "every action,function of the human nature is analyzed as a disorder". I think in every situation that should not be the case because your diagnosing someone with something that they may not have, and eventually you may have them believe that its really something wrong with them and its sad.
In response to Shabrita, Its interesting that you said a lot of things that children go through can be the cause of disorders they may have.I agree I truly believe that the things we go through in life plays a big part in how we think and the things we do. When tragic things happen to people It can effect the "normal" way of thinking which in some cases takes a lot of therapeutic help. Although some people should not be diagnosed and some things should just be considered as a person acting a certain way because of their life experiences.
In this Chapter 4 Freudian view in personality consist of three systems the id,the ego and superego. That the id is untamed drives that might be linked to biological component and ego attempts to organized and mediate between the reality of danger by the ids impulses.The superego is the dangers of our own drives is to establish.The ego Defense Mechanisms is individual cope with anxiety and prevent the ego overwhelmed.I think ego plays a big part in the human life.The ego is the component of personality that is responsible for dealing with reality.
In response to Jeff, I am so glad you pointed that out. In my other psych class we learned about this. It's sort of funny to know that we have all these other parts to us that act both consciously or unconsciously. I personally feel that without any of these there would be no telling what society would be like, and that's not saying much because it is already messed up.
Reading chapter fours overall content, talks about the different stages we go through, throughout life and different ones we encounter. The stages were set up in comparison with Freud and Erickson psychosocial stages. It gives reasoning for why people, or when people have issues in their life that causes them to seek therapy. It also talks about the relationship of a therapist and a client. The therapist goal is to bring change in the clients life that allows them to make better decisions/choices. Different ways of getting the client to talk or become comfortable enough to freely associate, and pay attention to signs of resistance when a client fails to open up about a particular situation or event. I like this chapter because it helps you understand how you have to get to a root of a problem starting fron the Pral stage to get to the Genital stage to look for issues. Also how therapists have to look for key clues to figure the client out. In my opinion, sort of like a detective!
ReplyDeleteIn response to Alena, that statement you made "the therapist goal is to bring change in the client's life that allows them to make better decisions/choices" is right on. I completely agree! Our job as therapist is not to "fix" or "cure" the people because first off we don't have the ability to, but we should help guide them to better decisions/choices that 1) works for them and 2) will help get them through their issue(s). And ultimately if the client doesn't have a part in their help process then they will be right back to square one in a worst position then they already were.
DeleteChapter four lays out the relationship between therapist and client and the different therapeutic approaches as well as the process and way in which we cope. Me personally I'm not very fond of Frued's approach because I feel that in a way he sort of leaves them out in the cold. However I do like how he taps into the unconscious mind because that part can never lie. We as people put on different personas based on what we want people to know and or see. But with the unconscious mind, and free association it doesn't allow for you to change or filter what we really feel. Chapter four also at one point also touches on the defense mechanisms such as repression, denial, reaction formation, projection, displacement, rationalization, etc. As a therapist I think that it is a very good thing for us to know how to guide the client past them, because if you're always guarded or on defense then you won't really be able to take in and open up to what is being said. Overall I think that this chapter is very good for building a trustful relationship between therapist and client.
ReplyDeleteIn response to Niesha, I also didnt like some of Frueds approaches but some of them were helpful to me like muliticultural perspectives. I also agree on what you pointed out about being a good therapist it is good to know how to guide a person past thier issues such as being on the defense or being in denial ex.
DeleteIn response to Niesha, i agree with the statement you made that "we as people put on different persona based on what we want people to know or see." I agree with this statement because people hide their real self and lives behind these personas without realizing that in some situation, hiding things will just worsen things instead of talking it out with someone. Just like the client might at first portray themselves to look normal or sound normal when they are talking to you, portraying different personnas. For example, they might switch the subject when they are talking to the therapist and start talking about the clothes they brought or the food they made, just to avoid any bad signs that a therapist might have about them. When in reality the therapist already know they have a problem and they are just looking to help them.
DeleteIn response to Niesha,I like how you talked about the defense mechanisms and As a therapist very good thing for us to know how to guide the client past them, because if the client always guarded or on defense then you won't really be able to take in and open up to what is being said.up to what is being said.I think if you are too defense you won't really get the help you need
DeleteI thought it was interesting how the book talks about the three systems that makes up our personality and how those systems affects our behaviors. Then it goes on to tell us about the eleven other defenses that make up our behaviors. One of which was repression, where a child might go through abuse when they are young and have those painful events buried inside of them that later it starts to affect their behaviors. They might want to kill or hurt themselves or others. It can also cause the child to be very timid and to isolate themselves from the world. The book also made a statement that our personality are determined within the first six years of ours lives. I kind of disagree with that because our personalities can change as we grow up. When we are young, sometimes we do things out of unawareness and people might take that action as the type of person we are, when in fact the action was done out of unawareness and so it's not our personality.
ReplyDeleteIn response to Kambaja I liked your summary and I thought you made a lot of valid points. When you said you disagreed with the fact that our personalities are determined within the first six years of ours lives I think you kind of contradicted yourself by saying that because in the beginning of your summary you state that One of the defenses was repression, where a child might go through abuse when they are young and have those painful events buried inside of them that later it starts to affect their behaviors. They might want to kill or hurt themselves or others. So what I'm trying to say is that I do think that the first six years of our lives make up our personality but I'm not saying your personality can never change through the course of the rest of your life it would just be very difficult to change it because the first six years was when your brain first developed any type of personality.
DeleteAfter reading chapter 4, I've learned a lot about the different types of personality we way. I believe that they do have a big effect in our lives. After reading "Client's Experience in Therapy" I do believe that the client has to prepare themselves for the long session and unwanted talks. I like the free association because I would feel like I would want my client to speak there mind even if its something way of topic and crazy, I think my client would feel a little bit better before. The six basic techniques are wonderful to me also, because all of them has is pro's and con's to them.
ReplyDeleteIn reply to Shaniece, i agree with your response concerning how a client has to prepare themselves for unwanted talks. Unwanted talks can have both a negative and positive reactions to the client. It can take them in a zone of being comfortable as well as uncomfortable. But overall once those issues come out in the open, it will help to resolve what influences it have in their future.
DeleteIn chapter four they touched on multiple subjects that were very informative. This chapter touched on Freud’s theories, the structure of personality, the therapeutic process, therapeutic techniques and procedures, contemporary trends, psychoanalytic therapy from a multicultural perspective, and Jung’s perspective on the development of personality. What I found most interesting in this chapter was Jung’s perspective and his theory of personality. I found this interesting because he uses a psychology approach that I have not heard of before which is analytical psychology. I would love to be able to use this approach in my area of practice whatever that may be. I want to use this type of phycology because it is an elaborate explanation of human nature that combines ideas from history, mythology, anthropology, and religion. I feel as if this approach would help me to relate with my clients a lot more than any other approach because it is a combination of many different things and we as people have many different problems. “Jung maintained that we are not merely shaped by past events, but that we are influenced by our future as well as our past. Part of the nature of humans is to be constantly developing, growing, and moving toward a balanced and complete level of development.”
ReplyDeleteIn response to Molly. I think it is also very true that we are influenced by our future as well as our past. The past can bring negative effects to our future, and our future can bring negative effects of our past depending on what that may be. This is something that we need to overcome as individuals changing our behaviors and applying them to the very best of ourselves. Developing into people who are able to learn from mistakes and not be fearful of past/ future events.
DeleteAfter reading this chapter it was enlighting to know different theories that freud touched on, and how personality can effect our behavior. in the chapter it talked about people being defensive and how to build a trusting relationship with your clients.I belive that this is the most important thing to do as a therapist. Building a trustful relationship can help a therapist get to the core of most issues a person is having and help the client open up. I also liked reading freuds views on therapeutic techniques and procedures and multicultural perspectives. this helped me understand ways that some people can think and respond to things differently than I would. overall this chapter was good for me to read it helped me understand alot of things that I didnt understand before.
ReplyDeleteIn response to danielle, i agree with your line of thought that a client can be defensive when you ask them a question, especially when they have trust issues. I think that sometimes when a client is being defensive, that's their way of trying to avoid the question that they were asked or that they are guilty of something that they don't want to tell you. And so the therapist should really be skilled and know how to respond when their client act defensively.
DeleteIn response to danielle, I also believe that trust plays a big part in everything too. Honestly without trust the client may not open up to you as well as you would want them to. I also feel like the client may become defensive while talking about certain things because they may feel some type of way about the conversation and may not know how to answer certain questions correctly.
DeleteIn response to Danielle, I do believe personality can eff our behavior.I think because your personality plays a role in almost everything that you do in life. Your personality, you can often predict how he or she will be likely to act in a particular situation.I do believe Building a trustful relationship can help a therapist with their client because the client would be more confident opening up.
DeleteDuring the reading of chapter 4 there were many of Freud theories I found to be very helpful, some intriguing and others very bizarre. Borderline personality disorder I found to be very interesting, to just think that a crisis, rejection or isolation during childhood could trigger such a thing described as a personality disorder. However I do think some of these disorders are a little strange, for instance narcissistic personality, would it be fair to say that in reality this is what one would consider self-worth, or maybe be to be a little arrogance or self absorbed, In my opinion I think that every action, emotion and function of the human nature is analyzed as a disorder.
ReplyDeleteIn response to Shabrita when you said that you think that every action, emotion and function of the human nature is analyzed as a disorder I one hundred percent agree with you because my brother was diagnosed with ADHD when he was in 3rd grade when really he was drinking my moms ice coffees before he went to school because he wanted to feel grown up. So now he has a teacher that follows him around school and he has to take medication he doesn't need just because they over analyzed a hyper kid and just wrote him off with a disorder.
DeleteIn response to shabrita i agree with you when you say "every action,function of the human nature is analyzed as a disorder". I think in every situation that should not be the case because your diagnosing someone with something that they may not have, and eventually you may have them believe that its really something wrong with them and its sad.
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In response to Shabrita, Its interesting that you said a lot of things that children go through can be the cause of disorders they may have.I agree I truly believe that the things we go through in life plays a big part in how we think and the things we do. When tragic things happen to people It can effect the "normal" way of thinking which in some cases takes a lot of therapeutic help. Although some people should not be diagnosed and some things should just be considered as a person acting a certain way because of their life experiences.
In this Chapter 4 Freudian view in personality consist of three systems the id,the ego and superego. That the id is untamed drives that might be linked to biological component and ego attempts to organized and mediate between the reality of danger by the ids impulses.The superego is the dangers of our own drives is to establish.The ego Defense Mechanisms is individual cope with anxiety and prevent the ego overwhelmed.I think ego plays a big part in the human life.The ego is the component of personality that is responsible for dealing with reality.
ReplyDeleteIn response to Jeff, I am so glad you pointed that out. In my other psych class we learned about this. It's sort of funny to know that we have all these other parts to us that act both consciously or unconsciously. I personally feel that without any of these there would be no telling what society would be like, and that's not saying much because it is already messed up.
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