In chapter 5,I like how adlerians views the worlds the clients frame of reference as he describes it as Phenomenological. Like he states " Paying attention to the individual way in which people perceive their world,referred to as "Subjective Reality" includes the individuals perceptions,thoughts,feelings,values,beliefs,convictions,and conclusions. I agree with this because you never know how the client looks at things and maybe that's why they think the things they think or maybe act the way they do. Birth order and sibling relationship i believe that i fall under the only child even thought am 1 out 5, i have the mindset of the only child because im the only the that's lives with my grandparents so there fore it was all about me. But when im around my brothers and sister i still have the mindset of a only child because i pay them no mind, i be in my only world. I always agree that the therapist and clients should have a good relationship because i feel like the session would go so much easier and if the client feels like they can trust you i feel like they would open up more.
In response to Shaniece, I also like the way Alder describes that a clients frame of reference is phenomenal. individuals perception, thoughts, feelings ex. I do believe have a lot to do with the way people act and the things they do. His concept about sibling relationships also seem to be true only because of my own life experiences and seeing how siblings interact together and as individuals.
Shanice I totally agree with all of your points, I think alot of Adler's theories are valid and corresponds well with the human nature. The one I took a paticular intrest in and concured with all of your thoughts was The Birth Order.
Chapter 5 was about statuses, roles, social interactions, and stereotypes. This chapter went into detail on each of these into detail explaining and describing the different types of each and how they are used in society to define who you are. What I found interesting about this chapter was Phillp Zimbardo’s notorious experiment on how roles affect prison behavior. (pg120) I found this interesting because they had to stop the experiment after only six days because the people involved in it were starting to believe their roles were real and they lost grasp of reality.
In respone to Molly, I also believe that this chapter went into detail about statuses, roles and social interaction. It helps you understand the methods an Alderian therapist uses in order to fully understand the client.I like their method because it allows the client to become comfortable with giving out specific information that they wouldnt with another therapist. Almost like talking to a best friend, and knowing your secret is safe with them.
In Chapter 5 Adler talks about how human are primarily by social relatedness rather than by sexual urges.Adler also stressed choice and responsibility, meaning in life,and the striving for success,completion and perfection.Another thing Adler talks about is the social Interest and the Community Feeling. This was one of Adler significant and distinctive concepts are individuals awareness of being part of the human community and to individuals attitude in dealing the social world.I think it is difficult in social world because their are so many different personality in the world and their some people you are going to like and so you do not like.
In response to Jeff, Alders theories on choice of responsibility, meaning of life and striving for success stand out to me it seems like he doesn't ignore the fact that people are still considered responsible for their choices in life but also are capable of striving for better regardless of their situation. Social relatedness makes more sense to me that relating things by sexual urges.
In response to Jeff, I think Adler stressed the striving for success because the client will have to do a lot of changes themselves. A therapist can help the client have a healthier routine in live and some other things but they can only go but so far. The client should really have the heart to want to change and work hard to cooperate with the therapist when questions are being asked strive to work on not being the victim of what had happened to them in the past.
I agree with Alders theory of individuals begin to form an approach to life somewhere in the first six years of life. I also agree that were we have come from is not as important as were we are going. I believe that its never to late to help a person overcome negative situations or the way they think if they get the right help. In class we talked about Alders vs. Freud, Alders therapeutic goals make more sense to me, his concept in building respect between the client and therapist is very important. Once you gain a clients respect this will help the client be more open with the therapist. after the therapist has gained the clients respect and trust then the therapist can assist the client with confidence to overcome their issues.
In response to Danielle, i believe Adler's statement is very true regarding where we come from is not as important as were we are going. I believe that we are all given different types of lives. Some handed to them with silver spoons and some without. Its your choice as a person to change your life, and to make it better for yourself. I wrote the same thing in my blog stating that we determine our life based on how we value it, and if we dont value our own lives... who will? Good summary!
In response to Danielle, I agree with the statement you made that "it is never too late to help a person overcome negative situations or the way they think if they get the right help." And that's why I like Adler's theory because this theory can be a reminder for me and others that I don't have to be certain way because this and this happened to me. which brings me back to what I said in class with my mom, she had to realize that just because she had a tough childhood, that did not mean that she had to treat me the same way she was treated. She learned that she had to let go of the past and that we are in a different time period.
In response to danielle, i also agree with the statement "It not where you came from its where you're going" Because you may come from a place where its so much negativity and you may feel like everything else will be like that,but its no need to hold on to that cause you can always turn your life around with positive things in them. I also agree with "Its never to late to get help" I agree cause i understand that it takes time.
I learned some things in this chapter that helped me later on understand our discussion about the quote: Meanings are not determined by situations. In the beginning i didnt think this was a true statement but now reading chapter 5 explains it in more detail why. We are not shaped by our childhood experiences unless we allow those experiences to take over us. Alderian Therapy gets more into depth of understanding the person individually and creating a relationship with the client to be able to understand their experiences and how it contributes to their development. This helps the therapist understand the way they think and behave. It also helps a Alderian therapist view how certain situation influence our lifestyle. It can either have a positive impact or a negative imopact. But overall, it is a choice of our own, and the client has to make the decision to change their ways or to continue down a positive road.We also determine our life based on how we value it. This was not a full summary of chapter 5 , but my thoughts on what i have read, and what spoke out to me the most.
In response to Alena I liked your summary a lot and I enjoyed the quote you added from the book. When you said certain situations shape our lifestyle I totally agree with you but don't you think the way we handle the situations comes from our childhood and how we were raised to handle them? So in a way our childhood does shape who we are. I was also a little confused by this statement you made "But overall, it is a choice of our own, and the client has to make the decision to change their ways or to continue down a positive road." did you mean to say that if we do change our ways the road will be a negative one or did you mean to say if we don't change the road will be a negative one?
Chapter five was basically about Adler believing that a person can overcome what they went through in life when they were a kid and not carry it into their adult life if they make the necessary changes. I agree because a person always have the choice to either stay the victim of their past or break from that. I also like how Adler doesn't like to label people or view them as psychologically sick but rather he will say that the client is discouraged. Because often times labeling someone makes them look bad so I like how he tries to find a better way to say what someone is.
In response to kambaja,I do agree if you can overcome what you went through in life as child and not carry in adult life.i believe this because if you do not overcome your childhood life and bring it to your adult life it going make your life even harder because if you are thinking about the past it just going bring more painful memories.I don't think you can ever grow if you stay in the past.
In chapter five I really enjoyed Adler theories, in fact I find his theories to be more realistic and logical than the others. From the very beginning View of Human Nature "he focused on the persons past as percieved in the present and how an individual's interpretation of early events continue to influence that person's behavior", Subjective Perception of Reality "the individual way in which people percieve their world", Fictional Finalism, The Birth Order, Family Constellation, Encourage Self Understanding Insight, and so on... In my opinion Adler's insight of the human nature is so on point to me. He is by far the best theorist I have come upon thus far.
In response to shabrita, I agree with you when you say " He one of the best theorist so far" I like him because he seems to touch on all the right things and what matters the most from a person's behavior,to the birth order to family constellation, i really just like every thing he covered in the chapter.
In response to shabrita, I agree with you when you say " He one of the best theorist so far" I like him because he seems to touch on all the right things and what matters the most from a person's behavior,to the birth order to family constellation, i really just like every thing he covered in the chapter.
In response to Shabrita, I agree with you also. I think that Alder's theories are very on point. They are more focused on the client and how to truly get them to place where they feel they should be. He also speaks on the birth order and I agree completely with it. My sister is the youngest and she exhibits all of those characteristics he stated.
In response to shabrita,the persons past as percieved in the present and how an individual's interpretation of early events continue to influence that person's behavior". I think because the early event can cost them to change complete if it was bad experience.
I really like Adler's approach. I think he has a way of reaching the client. He believes in forming a relationship based on mutual respect. I feel that he has a true understanding of what therapy is and implements it in his approach. Chapter 5 speaks on the birth order and how it affects the person directly and those they interact with. I personally don't like the youngest child syndrome, they are over compensated and it radiates throughout their childhood and adulthood. I really related to chapter five, it speaks on us humans in general and people individually.
Niesha I agree with Adler's mutual respect approach aswell, I also admire his thought process of helping his clients identify and change their mistaken beliefs about theirselves, others and life in general.
In reponse to Jeff, I agree completely. The social aspect is very difficult because it involves being adaptive and having a self awareness. I also think it relates more than the sexual urges, that sort of misses the mark.
Please disregard my last summary...Chapter five was about the Adlerian approach. The Adlerian approach stresses the individuals positive capacities to live fully in society. This approach is also characterized by seeing unity in the personality and understanding a persons world from a subjective vantage point.I think this approach is very effective because it stresses life goals that give direction to peoples behavior. Adlerians are mainly concerned with helping clients with their identity and changing their mistaken beliefs about self,others, and life.
In chapter 5,I like how adlerians views the worlds the clients frame of reference as he describes it as Phenomenological. Like he states " Paying attention to the individual way in which people perceive their world,referred to as "Subjective Reality" includes the individuals perceptions,thoughts,feelings,values,beliefs,convictions,and conclusions. I agree with this because you never know how the client looks at things and maybe that's why they think the things they think or maybe act the way they do. Birth order and sibling relationship i believe that i fall under the only child even thought am 1 out 5, i have the mindset of the only child because im the only the that's lives with my grandparents so there fore it was all about me. But when im around my brothers and sister i still have the mindset of a only child because i pay them no mind, i be in my only world. I always agree that the therapist and clients should have a good relationship because i feel like the session would go so much easier and if the client feels like they can trust you i feel like they would open up more.
ReplyDeleteIn response to Shaniece, I also like the way Alder describes that a clients frame of reference is phenomenal. individuals perception, thoughts, feelings ex. I do believe have a lot to do with the way people act and the things they do. His concept about sibling relationships also seem to be true only because of my own life experiences and seeing how siblings interact together and as individuals.
DeleteShanice I totally agree with all of your points, I think alot of Adler's theories are valid and corresponds well with the human nature. The one I took a paticular intrest in and concured with all of your thoughts was The Birth Order.
DeleteChapter 5 was about statuses, roles, social interactions, and stereotypes. This chapter went into detail on each of these into detail explaining and describing the different types of each and how they are used in society to define who you are. What I found interesting about this chapter was Phillp Zimbardo’s notorious experiment on how roles affect prison behavior. (pg120) I found this interesting because they had to stop the experiment after only six days because the people involved in it were starting to believe their roles were real and they lost grasp of reality.
ReplyDeleteIn respone to Molly, I also believe that this chapter went into detail about statuses, roles and social interaction. It helps you understand the methods an Alderian therapist uses in order to fully understand the client.I like their method because it allows the client to become comfortable with giving out specific information that they wouldnt with another therapist. Almost like talking to a best friend, and knowing your secret is safe with them.
DeleteIn Chapter 5 Adler talks about how human are primarily by social relatedness rather than by sexual urges.Adler also stressed choice and responsibility, meaning in life,and the striving for success,completion and perfection.Another thing Adler talks about is the social Interest and the Community Feeling. This was one of Adler significant and distinctive concepts are individuals awareness of being part of the human community and to individuals attitude in dealing the social world.I think it is difficult in social world because their are so many different personality in the world and their some people you are going to like and so you do not like.
ReplyDeleteIn response to Jeff, Alders theories on choice of responsibility, meaning of life and striving for success stand out to me it seems like he doesn't ignore the fact that people are still considered responsible for their choices in life but also are capable of striving for better regardless of their situation. Social relatedness makes more sense to me that relating things by sexual urges.
DeleteIn response to Jeff, I think Adler stressed the striving for success because the client will have to do a lot of changes themselves. A therapist can help the client have a healthier routine in live and some other things but they can only go but so far. The client should really have the heart to want to change and work hard to cooperate with the therapist when questions are being asked strive to work on not being the victim of what had happened to them in the past.
DeleteI agree with Alders theory of individuals begin to form an approach to life somewhere in the first six years of life. I also agree that were we have come from is not as important as were we are going. I believe that its never to late to help a person overcome negative situations or the way they think if they get the right help. In class we talked about Alders vs. Freud, Alders therapeutic goals make more sense to me, his concept in building respect between the client and therapist is very important. Once you gain a clients respect this will help the client be more open with the therapist. after the therapist has gained the clients respect and trust then the therapist can assist the client with confidence to overcome their issues.
ReplyDeleteIn response to Danielle, i believe Adler's statement is very true regarding where we come from is not as important as were we are going. I believe that we are all given different types of lives. Some handed to them with silver spoons and some without. Its your choice as a person to change your life, and to make it better for yourself. I wrote the same thing in my blog stating that we determine our life based on how we value it, and if we dont value our own lives... who will? Good summary!
DeleteIn response to Danielle, I agree with the statement you made that "it is never too late to help a person overcome negative situations or the way they think if they get the right help." And that's why I like Adler's theory because this theory can be a reminder for me and others that I don't have to be certain way because this and this happened to me. which brings me back to what I said in class with my mom, she had to realize that just because she had a tough childhood, that did not mean that she had to treat me the same way she was treated. She learned that she had to let go of the past and that we are in a different time period.
DeleteIn response to danielle, i also agree with the statement "It not where you came from its where you're going" Because you may come from a place where its so much negativity and you may feel like everything else will be like that,but its no need to hold on to that cause you can always turn your life around with positive things in them. I also agree with "Its never to late to get help" I agree cause i understand that it takes time.
DeleteI learned some things in this chapter that helped me later on understand our discussion about the quote: Meanings are not determined by situations. In the beginning i didnt think this was a true statement but now reading chapter 5 explains it in more detail why. We are not shaped by our childhood experiences unless we allow those experiences to take over us. Alderian Therapy gets more into depth of understanding the person individually and creating a relationship with the client to be able to understand their experiences and how it contributes to their development. This helps the therapist understand the way they think and behave. It also helps a Alderian therapist view how certain situation influence our lifestyle. It can either have a positive impact or a negative imopact. But overall, it is a choice of our own, and the client has to make the decision to change their ways or to continue down a positive road.We also determine our life based on how we value it. This was not a full summary of chapter 5 , but my thoughts on what i have read, and what spoke out to me the most.
ReplyDeleteIn response to Alena I liked your summary a lot and I enjoyed the quote you added from the book. When you said certain situations shape our lifestyle I totally agree with you but don't you think the way we handle the situations comes from our childhood and how we were raised to handle them? So in a way our childhood does shape who we are. I was also a little confused by this statement you made "But overall, it is a choice of our own, and the client has to make the decision to change their ways or to continue down a positive road." did you mean to say that if we do change our ways the road will be a negative one or did you mean to say if we don't change the road will be a negative one?
DeleteChapter five was basically about Adler believing that a person can overcome what they went through in life when they were a kid and not carry it into their adult life if they make the necessary changes. I agree because a person always have the choice to either stay the victim of their past or break from that. I also like how Adler doesn't like to label people or view them as psychologically sick but rather he will say that the client is discouraged. Because often times labeling someone makes them look bad so I like how he tries to find a better way to say what someone is.
ReplyDeleteIn response to kambaja,I do agree if you can overcome what you went through in life as child and not carry in adult life.i believe this because if you do not overcome your childhood life and bring it to your adult life it going make your life even harder because if you are thinking about the past it just going bring more painful memories.I don't think you can ever grow if you stay in the past.
DeleteIn chapter five I really enjoyed Adler theories, in fact I find his theories to be more realistic and logical than the others. From the very beginning View of Human Nature "he focused on the persons past as percieved in the present and how an individual's interpretation of early events continue to influence that person's behavior", Subjective Perception of Reality "the individual way in which people percieve their world", Fictional Finalism, The Birth Order, Family Constellation, Encourage Self Understanding Insight, and so on... In my opinion Adler's insight of the human nature is so on point to me. He is by far the best theorist I have come upon thus far.
ReplyDeleteIn response to shabrita, I agree with you when you say " He one of the best theorist so far" I like him because he seems to touch on all the right things and what matters the most from a person's behavior,to the birth order to family constellation, i really just like every thing he covered in the chapter.
DeleteIn response to shabrita, I agree with you when you say " He one of the best theorist so far" I like him because he seems to touch on all the right things and what matters the most from a person's behavior,to the birth order to family constellation, i really just like every thing he covered in the chapter.
DeleteIn response to Shabrita, I agree with you also. I think that Alder's theories are very on point. They are more focused on the client and how to truly get them to place where they feel they should be. He also speaks on the birth order and I agree completely with it. My sister is the youngest and she exhibits all of those characteristics he stated.
DeleteIn response to shabrita,the persons past as percieved in the present and how an individual's interpretation of early events continue to influence that person's behavior". I think because the early event can cost them to change complete if it was bad experience.
DeleteI really like Adler's approach. I think he has a way of reaching the client. He believes in forming a relationship based on mutual respect. I feel that he has a true understanding of what therapy is and implements it in his approach. Chapter 5 speaks on the birth order and how it affects the person directly and those they interact with. I personally don't like the youngest child syndrome, they are over compensated and it radiates throughout their childhood and adulthood. I really related to chapter five, it speaks on us humans in general and people individually.
ReplyDeleteNiesha I agree with Adler's mutual respect approach aswell, I also admire his thought process of helping his clients identify and change their mistaken beliefs about theirselves, others and life in general.
DeleteIn reponse to Jeff, I agree completely. The social aspect is very difficult because it involves being adaptive and having a self awareness. I also think it relates more than the sexual urges, that sort of misses the mark.
ReplyDeletePlease disregard my last summary...Chapter five was about the Adlerian approach. The Adlerian approach stresses the individuals positive capacities to live fully in society. This approach is also characterized by seeing unity in the personality and understanding a persons world from a subjective vantage point.I think this approach is very effective because it stresses life goals that give direction to peoples behavior. Adlerians are mainly concerned with helping clients with their identity and changing their mistaken beliefs about self,others, and life.
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